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This Is Easy That Is Difficult

This post was inspired by the nauseatingly numerous theists' comments across, sadly, many forums in denial of evolution. The comments usally read something like...
"Even after all I've heard from atheists, I still feel that total belief in evolution
takes a whole lot more imagination than a belief in God the creator!"
I think we can all lay claim to having heard the religious exhibit this kind of poor thinking that seems to be a consequence of faith; they seem quite often to be confused about which things are complicated and which are easy, what is obvious and what is not.
I'll try to illustrate -
EASY
It seems to me that to be convinced of god most people only have to be told "there is one and you'd better watch out if you're naughty" I use that phraseology because most are brainwashed at a time when the god notion is easily embeded - as children. It's simply a matter of not considering any alternatives from that point - you just continue to do what you were told to do as a child and follow whichever dogma your innocence was force fed.
So, relatively easy to achieve belief in a God

DIFFICULT
Conversely it seems, to be convinced of evolution one has to study hard for a good number of years, collecting the multivarious components of evidence which point to a reasonable conclusion that evolution is the true mechanisn for the arrival of life on earth. Some very big words are involved, one must comprehend data and listen to lectures, one is required to sit numerous exceedingly difficult exam; and all whilst living under the socially perpetuated perspective that for what you're studying you will be condemned to an eternity of torment - a difficulty which is much more intense for any previously 'devout/faithful' biologist - Acceptance that because the evidence leads to evolution as the conclusion, the individual's lifetime experience via the pervasive social and government backed GOD indoctination must be wrong. The pre-indoctrinated must then spend countless years not only self deprogramming, eventually, hopefully, expunging religious feelings/guilt/doubt completely from the conscious mind but also question the reasons behind government backing of the lie!
Those who comprehend the facts of evolution know it MEANS there is no god, however not all those who comprehend are capable of breaking the programming, and others are not strong enough to stand without the (false) hope of a heavenly visit with long mouldy relatives.
In the face of such adversity, it seems to me, an infinitely more difficult achievment for
an individual to become convinced of evolution.

So yes, one could say it takes more imagination to believe in evolution, but it only takes imagination if you incapable of learning the facts. Learn the facts and you don't need any imagination, it's suddenly patently obvious. Whereas with a god figure, one can ONLY imagine - there are no facts to present!

As a tentative conclusion (which it never is with this bloody topic!) if the religious have that much trouble comprehending the more "Black and White" parameters of "Easy" and "Difficult", it's understandable that the more subtle concepts of "MORE LIKELY" and "LESS LIKELY" are less easily grasped.
MORE LIKELY
Random event forms the universe
LESS LIKELY
A full formed god pops into existance fully equipped with more knowledge, understanding and powers than any other being has since been able to come close to achieving

I wonder, if you dissected a religious persons brain, if you would find synaptic connections that showed the person also thought black was white, right was left, up was down etc. lol.
With this in mind fellow warriors of reason step forth
but tread carefully, they are not right you know!
Really, I mean it, beware - that much delusion in one place
can only be dangerous!
Check this
(I think it's how we got them!)
Humanity and Religion - Recipe for Disaster?


Finally, as you might have guessed, a couple of questions...
In proclaiming "it takes MORE imagination to believe in evolution than god", doesn't the use of the word 'more' imply that a measurable amount of imagination is required to achieve belief in a god? And, doesn't the proclamation thereby imply that even the proclaimer, often a staunch believer, has some comprehension that the god their god is imaginary?

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Religion IS Restriction

I read an article in the Christian Science Monitor entitled "Religious freedom not the rule for majority of world: Pew report". It detailed the findings of a 2009 report by the Pew Research Center's Forum on Religion & Public Life, highlighting that nearly 70% of the world's population live in countries with "High" or "Very High" religious restrictions and, that no nation is fully free of religious restrictions. The Christian Science Monitor article concluded by asking if the reader is surprised at the high levels of religious restriction around the globe.
It bangs on about the Pew report like it's news! Like it's telling us something new!
Are they f**kin' kidding?

Does this go some way to explaining the religious mindset? This is the Christian Science Monitor!
Someone there must be of a decent rate of intelligence, the editor must at least have some sort of qualification or experience.
How is it nobody noticed that the question can only have one answer?
...surprised at the high levels of religious restriction around the globe?

Err,
NO
Not surprised AT ALL

Religions function by being a set of rules, which corral and control their devotees' personal life choices!

By definition religions
are
100% RESTRICTIVE!
 
If there is religion in a country,
there is restriction -
It's the nature of the beast!!


Check out Religious Free Will - The Ultimate Oxymoron for more on this.
 
Supporting Articles:-
"Religious freedom not the rule for majority of world: Pew report" CSMonitor.com Article
http://www.csmonitor.com/World/Global-News/2009/1218/Religious-freedom-not-the-rule-for-majority-of-world-Pew-report

2009 Pew Report PewForum.org Analysis Article
http://pewforum.org/Government/Global-Restrictions-on-Religion.aspx




Also, whilst we're here, the title - "The Christian Science Monitor" Smacks of Oxymoron to me, does it you? Or does it just smack of nonsense?

Surely, as Science is Science,
the phrase "Christian Science" can only have one of three meanings:-

The publication covers topics that are specifically to do with the science of being a Christian

or
Christians need a special department of science that is different to real science (but if it's different to actual science is it real?)
or
Christians need the facts massaged into a form that won't upset their chocolate box view of the universe.

I suggest that only the first meaning could be considered a valid reason for the title and as, I believe, there are no observable physiological changes to the human body which could be claimed to be caused by religious affiliation (circumcision excepted) even that meaning is irrelevant.

Purpose of Christian Science Monitor? Dubious?

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How America Cares

More than half a century later


Does America really look any different?

From masters of photography.com


Free Care
is not the same as
CareFree


American's - Could they care any less?

"No no sir, I cannot afford to help you to buy
the tablet that you NEED to save your life
because my focus is on destroying life
and I need to buy some new bullets."


Is America too focussed on destroying life to consider helping to save it?


More on Health Care

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Faith is NOT Part of Our Bloodstream

The Church of England's top Cleric - A very confused Cassock?

Dr Williams told The Daily Telegraph: “The trouble with a lot of Government initiatives about faith is that they assume it is a problem, it’s an eccentricity, it’s practised by oddities, foreigners and minorities.

“The effect is to de-normalise faith, to intensify the perception that faith is not part of our bloodstream. And, you know, in great swaths of the country that’s how it is.”

Rt Rev Stephen Lowe, the former Bishop of Urban Life. He said: “He’s absolutely on the ball. Religion is seen as being a problem because of the connection between radical Islam and terrorism that has tainted all religions.

Telegraph
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/religion/6792088/Archbishop-of-Canterbury-Labour-treats-us-like-oddballs.html



What you have failed to notice my dear ArchBish is that the opinion, of which you've suddenly become aware, is the right one - people of faith ARE oddballs.

  • They gather together with others who are also of the opinion that the human body has an undetectable part.
THAT IS ODD
(Check The TRUE shape of your SOUL for more on this.)

  • They think that there's a supreme creator of everything!
THAT IS BALLS
(Check The Most Probable Thing in the Omniverse? for more on this.)

  • They think that their wailing and caterwauling to, and about, him is actually pleasing that God, but because the God they are told to worship can never be fulfilled or surprised...
THAT IS ODD
(Check Let's Think About God for more on this.)

  • They think that because they believe in their fairy story to the point of defensive obsession, they have the right to be treated as reasonable human beings, but they are no more than scared children so...
THAT IS BALLS
(Check Religion - Refuge of the Weak and Powerless? for more on this.)

I could go on, but I feel we have sufficient...

A simple conflation then
(Probabbly the only kind of conflation available to the Government, or the ArchBish for that matter!)
brings us to the same conclusion as the beardy ArchBish

PEOPLE OF FAITH

ARE

ODDBALLS


(Check The Cost Of Faith for more on this.)



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